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Quick question: Working on Ferraris, Information, training and so forth

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Autumn, Jun 29, 2005.

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  1. Autumn

    Autumn Rookie

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    Hello all, this is my first post and I wasn't very sure where to post this. I appologize if this is a bad place.

    In my future I would like very much to have the opportunity to do mechanical work on Ferrari's. I soon will have an electrical and nuclear engineering degree and plan to use those as a source, or starting point, for my main occupation. Hopefully at one of nuclear power plants near Chicago. Mechanical work for Ferrari would be a second job.

    So I would like to ask, where does one start in accomplishing this? Is it very hard to be hired by Ferrari as a mechanic?

    Can anyone suggest any great reading material. Information to familurize myself with the makes, their quirks, and the roundabouts of doing the work.

    What schooling or training should I seek? What experience would they like to see in a mechanic? Do they school in Italy?

    Who should I talk to? Would one of the two Chicago Ferrari locations hire me or would it be more probable to do work for someone else.

    Is there anything I haven't thought of (I'm sure there is). Please tell.

    I am very much interested in this. If anyone can help me in anyway it would be much appreciated.

    You can email if you'd like: [email protected]

    Thank you in advance!
     
  2. don_xvi

    don_xvi F1 Rookie

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    Sorry, I don't have the answers, and I'd get yelled at a lot if I told you to search the archives.


    To the moderators and anti-ASN's, can we make one or more of the threads on this into a Sticky or put it in a FAQ ? Maybe Fchat needs a FAQ forum that just gets commonly occurring threads like this (what, about every month?) moved into it.
     
  3. Autumn

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    Wow I didn't know that many people were looking to be a mechanic for Ferrari.

    I will search the archives and see what I find, thank you for your reply!

    But regardless if anyone has any information I would love to hear it!
     
  4. don_xvi

    don_xvi F1 Rookie

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    Good luck !

    If you're gonna be an electrical/nuclear engineer, I'd just assume work on my own Ferrari for therapy if you enjoy that sort of thing...
     
  5. Doug

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    If you want to really work on Ferraris, go to a independent shop that works on old ones. The dealers prefer the newer cars that come in with warranty. The repairs are more computer oriented.
    Owners of 6yr and older cars seem to gravitate toward the independent. Less expensive and usually quicker service.
     
  6. Autumn

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    A lot of people have suggested working for an independent

    I would really like to work on the newer ones at the dealer. I assume it would require more training. I assume you're speaking of diagnoses when you speak about computer orientated?

    A few have suggested that perhaps working for an independant and then working my way up to the dealer. Ideas? I'm not sure how this "tree" works at Ferrari.

    I like working on cars for therapy. And I love Ferraris. The problem is I would like to work on a whole lot of them but don't actually want to own one.

    Thanks for the replies!
     
  7. Dave

    Dave F1 Rookie

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    So let me get this straight,
    You will soon have a nuclear engineering degree,
    but you want to be an auto mechanic?
     
  8. cglazows

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    I am currently working towards a PhD in Optics, thesis in novel medical imaging techniques. I also wondered what sort of path there is to becoming a Ferrari technician, as I also enjoy working on cars on the side. After reading the other posts here on Ferrarichat about the very same topic, have come to the conclusion that it must be done "all in." That is, there is a highly selective demand for these technicians and if one is not going to fully concentrate on this task or goal, it would be futile. Certification on top of heaps of experience is usually required, and where that isn't the case, a lot of luck takes its place. With your engineering background, the ability to work on these cars is potentially possible. If you can understand nuclear and electrical systems, you would surely be able to comprehend a Ferrari's mechanicals with the right training. But someone who instead went to a technical institute for certification to be a mechanic, will have better ground than you will to eventually step into a Ferrari garage. I say work with what you know, be successful, and enjoy the 'scuderia ferrari' in your own garage. Wish you the best in your studies...
     
  9. DGS

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    Presumably, you're not frightened of computer work (if you have EE and nuke certs -- from the military?).

    But most Ferrari mechanics worked on other things before -- Alfas, Masers, Mitsus, etc. While there are some F-car owners who have money to burn, many of us are nervous about our cars, and having a "rookie" work on them isn't a glowing recommendation for a shop, so most exotic car shops only hire experienced mechanics -- typically from "lesser" dealers.

    (If there's a heirarchy, I'd guess it would be general service indie shop then either indie shop that does exotics too or a "mundane" dealer (Toyo, Honda, etc), and then move up to the "necktie" service bays. Or to put it another way, you only work in the clean shops after paying your dues in the dirty ones. ;))

    "Put your analyst on danger money, QUICK!" :D

    Seriously, you don't have to be a gazillionaire to own a Ferrari ... if you don't insist on a new one. And if you're going to be a mechanic, with a whole shop at your disposal, you wouldn't have problems with an older one.
     
  10. Autumn

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    To Dave:

    Yes, there is something greatly satisfying about using your knowledge, taking the time to put something together and watch it work. (That's of course the third time I put it together as there is always something I forget)

    I feel that my engineering profession will not give me that satisfaction. I'll get work done, but I won't be able to take a look at my finished product.

    To cglazows:

    Thanks for the reply! PhD in optics, very nice! I know this is a ferrari forum but I'm very interested in hearing about that.

    Very selective, I was pretty sure it wouldn't be easy. You are correct, I will never be able to fully concentrate on Ferrari. But I will be able to invest a large portion of time. I'm glad to read "potentially possible", as long as there's a starting point, there's a finishing point.

    I was thinking obtaining a technical degree of some form on automotive systems. Perhaps from UTI in Chicago, or maybe at a University to get started on the path. Any suggestions on additional training that I can obtain?

    To DGS:

    Thanks for the reply as well! I'm only afraid of computer work when you get that blue screen of doom that states because it's tuesday and you didn't clean the toilet you've run into error 34890234982734789234 and now must reinstall DOS 6.22 or toss the computer in the ocean. ha.

    I was thinking that might be a good idea, obtain some training from an institution of some sort and work at a foreign shop. Obtain some experience and move up. Paying your dues in a dirty shop before working in a clean one is very true, that's good advice. (That can be applied to practically anything, I'll keep that in mind.)

    It's not necessarily the money that deters me from buying a ferrari (of course it is right now). It's that I probably would never have any time to drive it, as I would be at the plant (I hope) or working in a shop on ferraris (I hope). On the practical side I would only want to own one car, so that I only have to take care of one car so that I can have time to do other things like work at the plant or the shop (I hope, again). If I could use it everyday (do people do this kind of thing?) and make sure that no one blows it up (anyone remember that miami vice episode?) then I would definetly get a 355 red on tan. That's a beautiful car, I really thing Ferrari hit a note with that one. I bought a Jaeger-Lecoultre Reverso and wind and wear it everyday, not that practical but it's a great watch and I use it everyday so I can justify keepin' it around. In retrospect I'm just a simple guy that wants to use what he has to help other people (use electricity and drive their car), I've got practically everything I've ever wanted.

    Thanks!
     
  11. Dave

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    A little Free advice...
    Use your degree, make lots of money, buy your own Ferrari,
    and work on it yourself!
    If you blow off the education you invested in to go to work for someone else as an auto mechanic, there is a good chance you will never earn enough to own a Ferrari.
    And of course you may not care about owning a Ferrari,
    you may just want to work on them.

    I'm not an auto mechanic, but I work on a boat load of Ferraris!
     
  12. Autumn

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    I would like to use my degree by working in a power plant near chicago and work on ferraris as well.

    I know it sounds difficult but that's why I'm here, to learn more about the possibilities and look at the reality of the situation.
     
  13. Ingenere

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    I do most of my own work........and I'm not a Ferrari mechanic. It is just great therapy.

    I think most of the dealers are using ASI certified techs and then take them on and send them to Fcar school on the different models.

    But I agree with the others..............use your degree.....make plenty of $$......buy your own and work on it for pleasure.

    Ciao........Dino
     
  14. DGS

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    Nope, I was never a fan of Miami Vice. If it makes you feel better, TV rarely uses real cars. I've heard that Ferrari US got tired of seeing the bad replica in MV, and gave them a real Ferrari to use. I'd guess that episode was the writers' way of getting rid of the replicar. ;)

    But to answer your question about daily use, I used an Alfa Romeo as a daily driver for ten years. (Okay, I had two of them -- the spider I bought new for good weather, and the "beater" Alfetta GT for daily.)

    I used my 328 as a daily driver for a couple of years after I bought it ... for summer. By that time, I had a Celica AllTrac for New England winters. While a mid-engined Ferrari wouldn't be too bad in the snow, most people like to keep them away from road salt. So the Ferrari was only a "daily" for summer.

    The reputation Italian cars get for being "unreliable" comes entirely, IMO, from poor maintenance. You just can't skimp on routine maintenance on an Italian. Most people, these days, completely ignore the service schedule -- and then have to replace their cars every few years. An older car -- Italian or otherwise -- needs to be maintained to keep running. I service all my cars the same way: Fix it on the maintenance schedule, instead of waiting for it to break-down on the highway. And in the last 25 years, I've broken down on the road four times -- three of them in the Toyota.

    Now I have the new EVO for daily use, so the Ferrari gets used in good weather -- or mood swings. ;) (I drove it every day last week, but not at all this week. (We've had rain all week.)) But Italian cars run better when used daily. (It's just that my current commute is a bit short and slow for the Ferrari -- sitting in gridlock isn't really "exercise".)

    Oh, and, using that maintenance schedule, I still have that Alfa Spider I bought back in '79. (But it has no aircon, so it's a spring/fall car.) (Having more than one car isn't much of a trick if you maintain them and keep them for decades -- they tend to accumulate. ;))
     
  15. Autumn

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    They gave them a white testarossa in season 3, I think it was.

    I've been curious for awhile as to why a few people speak of Ferraris quality, or I should say, there lack of. I've never owned one so I can't comment, but I find it difficult to believe that many would ignore the maintenance on a car so expensive. These cars and drivers demand a lot from from their drivetrain and suspension and the like. But ignoring the maintenance will definetly do it, cause problems that is.

    I'm curious what other people think about this, I'm sure they've got a thread about it here somewhere. I read another one about a guy who bought a 355 only to never check the oil and get into problems. Who does that??.. Holy cow.
     

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