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how do you convince your dad to buy a 360?

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  1. an032nv

    an032nv Formula Junior

    Jul 5, 2004
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    haha, my dad is in love with the 360 and as a 20 year old it would be my dream to see my dad buy one, but I don't think he ever will. Financially it's not a problem, but my mom wants a new house and my dad has himself convinced that all he needs is his pickup. What do I do, hypnotist? have schumacher call him? fly him to the factory? slip the word ferrari into several of the articles he reads? take out all the letters but those used to spell ferrari in his alphabits cereal :)

    Hopefully the concorso italiano in monterey next month will help me out
     
  2. ferrari sulla pellicola

    ferrari sulla pellicola Formula Junior

    Jun 21, 2004
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    1.get a camera
    2.talk dad into slamming a few shots with ya
    3.get your best looking female friend all dolled up and stick her on dads lap,planting kisses etc
    4.stick one of the pics on dads windshield along with an issue of autoweek,du pont registry etc explaining his options
    5.youll either get that 360..or learn to run as fast as one

    Not recommended if dad still kicks ass
     
  3. an032nv

    an032nv Formula Junior

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    lol, I don't think that'd go over in my favor, I think I'd get home from work to find my things in the driveway with the picture and the magazines, as well as the classifieds with a few apartments circled :D
     
  4. robinh

    robinh Formula Junior

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    Get him to go and drive one
     
  5. an032nv

    an032nv Formula Junior

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    yeah, I really need him to, I think that would help. His friend has the last year of the Lambo Diablo, another friend had a 355, another friend has had an f40, f50, 360 spyder, and now an enzo...peer pressure has no effect on my father.
     
  6. robinh

    robinh Formula Junior

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    Peer pressure won't work - wife pressure and his own desire are the only things that will work. Wife wants house, so that's out, that leaves you trying to find a way for HIM to build his own desire. Go and arrange a test drive for him.
     
  7. EVartanian

    EVartanian Formula 3

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    Hehe. Great post. Time to get to work!

    Well...it's not too difficult to realize that the pressure from the Queen for a house is the #1 issue. We need a way to figure this situation out. A house would probably complicate things and hinder progress towards the end goal. Perhaps steering towards other goodies your mom has her eye on to temporarily take her mind off the house. That way there will be some balance. She will be happy. I suppose it depends on how badly this house is wanted.

    Another angle I am seeing is keeping your dad AWAY from his friends toys. It seems that maybe rather than causing your dad to crave his own car even more, it might be having the opposite effect. Do they go driving/playing with cars often? Maybe he figures as long as he is in the company of the other cars, he can suppress his desires or keep them satisfied by playing cars with friends.

    Do you guys subscribe to Forza? If not, go to the newstand now, pick up the current issue, and send in the postcard. Leave the new mag next to the throne.

    What else? Hmm...tape F1 races and play them all day long on the TV.

    Yes, and obviously get him behind the wheel!!

    Good Luck!
     
  8. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
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    It depends what kind of a guy he is. For me, the solution was constant nagging. You keep talking about Ferraris and how he needs one. Honestly, it can even be sort of joking, "So, did you buy a 360 today? haha." Eventually my father bought a Ferrari just to shut me up :) But he loved it afterwards so I don't feel too bad. The key is just never to let him forget about Ferraris. Along those lines, if you want to take less of an upfront apporach, you can try to convince him that it's his idea. Every day say something like, "Hey, check out these Daytona seats. Aren't they cool?" and enough talk about challenge grilles and gated shifters may be enough to make him generate the idea himself. :D
     
  9. wax

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    Write a Last Will And Testament stipulating that if you die before he does, he gets *whatever* only if he gets a 360. Otherwise, his worst enemy gets *whatever.*

    "Accidently" leave Last Will And Testament laying around.
     
  10. LetsJet

    LetsJet F1 Veteran
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    Hey Chris,

    Tell us more about your dad. My thinking is, it "is" the money. What's your fathers' background? If he is a very fiscally responsible guy, then your going to have a hard time. Some people just can't justify spending so much on a depreciating asset, if they can afford it or not. I can understand this. My father would never make such a purchase. Though he's not "in love" with the 360 like your father is. I would suggest you show him how much the 360 has already depreciated and tell him a new model is coming out and in a few months, and that might be the most fiscally responsible time to purchase. Though you should start looking soon to be prepared. Another approach is to discuss death a bit - like - "Hey dad, did you hear about so and so, he died in his Ugo....wasn't he about your age? What a shame." He needs to see the value financially and also realize that life is short. To finish off the 1 -2 punch, I would get him to rent or borrow one for a half day drive with you (maybe your Mom - though that might backfire) and let him have some fun. Suggest that it is something you want for him and how great it would be because it would be something you both would bond with. Tell him you'll split the cost of maintanence with him (if your making money - otherwise don't bring it up). "I can't think of a better Father / Son hobby then Ferrari ownership....."

    Is this helping at all?
     
  11. WCH

    WCH F1 Veteran
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    Sounds like Dad is the problem, not Mom. Dad is convinced all he needs is a pickup.

    It would be terrible - a shame, really - if something fatal were to happen to his beloved pickup ....
     
  12. fanatic1

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    I'd say if you're 20 years old..............unless you're a full time student, move out, and worry about how to buy yourself one.

    If you are a full time student and still living with parents, I retract above statement.
     
  13. Lukas

    Lukas Formula Junior

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    i think it has a lot to do with the small stuff you say every now and then...like "i saw this really nice 360 and the sound was awseome, the lines is so nice on that car" and then later you keep saying more small details that will make him wanna look at it even more....but never sound annoying and just talk to him about the car when hes in the good mood you know ;)
     
  14. speedingpenguin

    speedingpenguin Karting

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    How bout this...Get rich quick and buy one for him...haha
    My dads sorta that way.....his dream car is a 57 'Vette, and i dont mean he just wouldnt mind having one.....he LOVES that car......And he could afford it, definatly, but he doesnt want to spend 60 or 70 thousand bucks on one...especially not when he's got me and my younger brother to help get through college and stuff....the car just isnt one of his highest priorities....
    Soo....I plan to, when i get big $$$, to buy him and my mom one for their retirement...ya know, something fun to do that they'll both love and enjoy....
    But.....gotta get $$$$$$$$$$ first though, lol
     
  15. noahlh

    noahlh Formula 3

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    Second the motion to have him drive one.

    In fact, the best thing for you to do [warning: shameless plug for my industry] is go rent him one for a day/weekend as a birthday/father's day/whatever present. Go get the car, park it in the driveway, and hand him the keys.

    If he doesn't want to buy one at the end of the weekend, it's not going to happen. :)

    nlh
     
  16. ghost

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    Great idea.

    You should also have him to talk to Udalmia, on this board. He has amazing powers of persuasion. ;)
     
  17. Stackhouse

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    Use reverse psychology. Tell him that if he ever buys an Italian POS, especially a Ferrari 360, you will forfeit your claim to the family fortune and move far far away.

    Then give him 48 hours. I guarantee you there will be a shinny red one in the driveway.

    Oh and make sure you make your statement on April 1st. It will be easier to retract once he buys the 360.

    PD
     
  18. an032nv

    an032nv Formula Junior

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    Haha, these are all great ideas. Let me answer a few of your different questions in a list:

    I am a full-time student and after I get my major I'm going into law school (i think) so moving out and working more for rent is out for now.

    I live in Fresno, CA., if any of you have been near this city you know it is not a mecca for exotic supercars. Renting one for the weekend is not an option either, there is nowhere to do it.

    He is fiscally responsible and cannot justify spending that much on a car, but I know he wants to, his brain just keeps telling him no.

    Him and his friends don't take the cars out so that's not a problem.

    I buy Forza and CAR a lot and leave them around, he always reads them, nothing happens.

    We went to the LA Auto Show and he talked to the dealer up on the stage all about different models, nothing ever happened.

    We go to the Auto Gallery, Symbolic, Ferrari Beverly Hills, Ferrari San Diego, etc. everytime we're in LA, nothing ever happens.

    The only good thing is when me and my brother went to dinner with him while our mom was out of town he said he had been looking at them at different places online. The fact that he is looking at them on his own time without my influence is fairly exciting.

    I do plan to get my own to answer someone else.

    I think I got everyone :)

    I need Armen to trailer down his collection and pack them into my driveway and give my dad the keys and say "enjoy your day jim".
     
  19. raoul

    raoul Rookie

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    You know, your Dad sounds like a pretty cool guy. You gotta like a guy that contemplates a decision like this so thoroughly, especially while his peers are indulging themselves.
     
  20. an032nv

    an032nv Formula Junior

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    He is very cool.
     
  21. Challenge

    Challenge Formula 3

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    Find out from one of your local dealers when the next track event is and get his a$$ in someone's passenger seat on the track. Nothing's more contagious than seeing people enjoying "big boy toys"...
     
  22. an032nv

    an032nv Formula Junior

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    the nearest "local dealers" are Ferrari of Beverly Hills and Ferrari of San Francisco, each 3.5 hours minimum away from us North and South.
     
  23. LAfun2

    LAfun2 Three Time F1 World Champ

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    You don't need to convince your dad. No one in Fresno needs a Ferrari. :D
     
  24. an032nv

    an032nv Formula Junior

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    There is already a few 360's, one is a CS, a 355 from a member on this board, a testarossa of another member on the board, and a black enzo. People in Fresno need Ferrari's :D
     
  25. 456mgt

    456mgt Formula Junior

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    Your dad sounds like a logical guy, in which case he'll get nowhere (and neither will you) trying to justify it on rational grounds. Trust me, I've tried. The only argument that works for your dads (and mine) age group is you could be dead tomorrow. I'm not suggesting you go round dressed like the grim reaper or start leaving Lipitor about the house, just remind him he isn't immortal and you're *only* concern is that he has a good time. Practice keeping a straight face on this one or the argument's deader than A-line flares with pockets in the knees. Job done. I give it a week. :)

    Oh, and if he doesn't like the car, he can sell it.
     

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