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456 fixer-upper - parts sources?

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by adrenalater, Jan 27, 2007.

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  1. adrenalater

    adrenalater Karting

    Dec 8, 2006
    126
    SF Bay Area
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    Jeff Stevens
    The 456 I fell in love with has turned out to be a fixer upper. Valve guides (52% leak down on #9!), clutch, brake pads, some interior bits, leather repair. I've been wrenching on cars as my hobby for 40 years, so pulling the heads is not the least bit intimidating. What is intimidating is the cost of Genuine Ferrari parts. But I want to buy this car despite its problems!

    My question to you: Does anyone have a reasonably comprehensive list of parts suppliers for Ferraris?

    I've found a few simply by spending every evening reading f-chat and visting the sponsor web sites, but for domestic cars it's not uncommon to find lists of 100 or more sources for engine, chassis, interior, and body restoration parts. I'm thinking major repair bits here, e.g. engine internals, not Tubi.

    Someone posted recently that the DIY'ers would soon be entering the 456 market. I'm here! :D

    Jeff
     
  2. Diablo456

    Diablo456 Karting

    Jul 27, 2006
    145
    I'm also a handy DIYer. My 456 developed valve guide problems, and after much research - including the need for some exceptionally expensive and specialized tools to insert/remove the guides - I concluded this is a job best left for the experts and shipped my car to Ferrari of Denver for an $11k repair job.

    Just as one example: inserting the new guides calls for 1) heating the head in an oven and 2) cooling the guides in liquid nitrogen then inserting them via a special tool. This job is so complex, that the Ferrari dealer doesn't do it, but instead has contracted a local machinist to handle all guide removal/replacements using Ferrari-supplied tools.

    Talk with Brian Crall or Dave Helms about this. They've developed their own procedures and tools for valve guides, in part because the Ferrari tools were crap (Dave's special tools are still used by Ferrari of Denver and on my car; he provided very valuable consultation when the guides were replaced).

    Bottom line is 2 fold for me: 1) Valve guide replacement is beyond the DIY category, even for those of us who rebuild engines and are comfortable taking the heads on/off; and, 2) I would personally avoid the purchase of any Ferrari with an unfixxed and known valve guide problem. There's lots of 456s out there at great prices; no need to buy something that will most certainly become a time- and money-pit.
     
  3. ProCoach

    ProCoach F1 Veteran
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    Sep 15, 2004
    5,465
    VIR Raceway
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    Peter Krause
    Jeff, you could pull the heads and ship them to someone.

    -Peter
     
  4. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

    Apr 29, 2004
    36,960
    Cowboy Capitol of the World
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    Brian Crall
    Jeff when the time comes I'll give you the # of the guy who does mine. There are a number of tricks that elude most machine shops to do them really well and it does not even really mean extra $$, It's more like serious headache avoidence.

    For parts. When you balance price, service, getting the actual right parts and in a reasonable amount of time go to Ricambi America. He is one of 2 that get the lions share of my business for cars of that vintage because with almost anyone else you will get caught up in a circle jerk.
     

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