Failed emission test today!

My 83 308 failed the emission test today in Bellevue. I have enclosed the results in hope someone knows what is wrong with my car. Neither FOS or Alfa of Tacoma were on the list of an Ecology Authorized Emission Specialists. What to do? Do I have to take it to the local Chevron station(on the list ) to have it fixed? Hope the results mean something to someone out there. My car has all smog stuff in place and had a major last year. The only non-oem related stuff on the car are the Ansa exhaust mufflers.

Test type: ASM

_____________HC(PPM)_____CO(%)_____CO+CO2(%)____O2(%)____RPM
Cruise Limit:_____150________1___________6___________N/A______N/A
Cruise Emissions:__82_______2.45_______16.15_________0.22______N/A
Cruise Result:____PASS______FAIL________N/A__________N/A______N/A
Idle Limit:________220_______1.2_________6___________N/A______N/A
Idle Emissions:____320_______3.89______16.09_________0.95______900
Idle Result:_______FAIL______FAIL________N/A__________N/A______N/A

Thanks in advance, as always,

Philip

 

Thank you all for your inputs. I have an appointment a Park Place Ltd. They're on list of approved Emission etc... I will look at my OM for details of pre and post cat results. If the cats are bad I will replace with those from Hyperflow.

Thanks to everyones input,

Philip

I'll repost the results of what I find after appt.

 

Thank you all again for the inputs. The car is at Park Place Ltd as we "speak" type. I dropped it off this morning. I haven't heard from them yet. I had internet problems until a few minutes ago so I have just read the posts since my last post. I will call them now and check out what they have found. I hesitate to tell them what the problem might be but thanks for the water sensor heads up. It might be just the problem. I'll post again soon.

 

Well I picked up my car from Park Place today. They found out that there was no vacuum signal to the air injection diverter. They replaced the vacuum hose and retested. The numbers came back very low in comparison to those previously. I will have the car retested tomorrow at the WA Emission station and I will notify all of the results. Thanks again for everyones input. If all goes well tomorrow I will bank the suggestions. If not I will have some ideas on where to look next.

 

Well here's the update on my test. I picked up the car at Park Place yesterday and they lost my door key. They gave me blank stares when they handed me my key chain with a missing key. I told them that the keys were on the key fob when I dropped it off. I guess they thought I would walk away with no comments concerning the key. Only after expressing my concern with my door key "floating around their shop" and their unwillingness to look again. They finally caved in a went looking again. This is where their blank stares came in, they said, "well it's not here and the tech doesn't remember seeing the missing key." I replied, "maybe it's because it was missing!" Any way they offered to replace it and I guess that's all that should be expected of them. This was my first time at Park Place Ltd. and it left a little to be desired.

Today I went back to the Bellevue Emission station. Long line today and while waiting for 1.5 hours the car overheated and spilled coolant everywhere. It was coming out of the overfill tube. I changed the oil yesterday and they topped off the reservoir as they told me. Don't know if it was overfilled but it got hot anyway. I was next in line too. Of course a tech came to tell me there was no way I could test, as my car was leaking fluid in a gross way. As soon as it was clear in front of me I was able to go through the facility and park the car on the other side. I started it up again and all the belts looked fine and all lights where out with temp gauges almost normal. I went next door to Schucks and bought two gallons of premixed coolant. It took almost the two gallons. I made sure to to not overfill it since it was still hot. ( it should be checked when cool).

I returned to the test station and reentered the even longer line. The temp gauge stayed at 195 the whole 1 hr wait. I retested again and still FAILED! I passed all tests except the idle CO (%) was still at 1.72(1.2 limit). I had to talk to the onsite manager to get a waiver. It was then that I was told the tech that signed me off at PPLtd was not on the state approved list. He checked a few places to trace the tech's certification but no luck. He waived me anyway.

I called PPLtd as soon as I got home. They say that the guy is approved and there is a mistake with the state. Well to say the least it makes me wonder about PPLtd! I am able to register the car anyway with a waiver for two years but just when I thought I had a local car place to have it serviced. Carlo is the man!

Thanks for listening

Phil

 

The only data from PPLtd's test was written on the original Vehicle Inspection Report given to them for their analysis. It is as follows:


Test type: ASM

_____________HC(PPM)_____CO(%)_____CO+CO2(%)____O2 (%)____RPM
Cruise Limit:_____150________1___________6___________N/A______N/A
Cruise Emissions:__82_______2.45_______16.15_________0.22 ______N/A
Cruise Result:____PASS______FAIL________N/A__________N/A______N/A
Idle Limit:________220_______1.2_________6___________N/A______N/A
Idle Emissions:____320_______3.89______16.09_________0. 95______900
Idle Result:_______FAIL______FAIL________N/A__________N/A______N/A

PPLtd's entry:
IDLE_____________56________.84
2500(cruise?)_____31________.21

Below are the results of the second test:
Test type: ASM

_____________HC(PPM)_____CO(%)_____CO+CO2(%)____O2 (%)____RPM
Cruise Limit:_____150________1___________N/A__________N/A______N/A
Cruise Emissions:__69_______0.91_______13.31___________3.4 ____1200
Cruise Result:____PASS_____PASS________N/A___________N/A______N/A
Idle Limit:________220______1.2_________0_____________N/A______N/A
Idle Emissions:____190______1.72_______13.12___________3.9______510
Idle Result:______PASS______FAIL________N/A__________N/A______N/A

I failed the test since the idle emissions were still 0.5 greater than allowed. Every other category went down except for both O2(%) readings went up in the second test. Thanks again for help in understanding the results and allowing me to actually fix the car. Pass or not I just want the car to run well and not pollute if possible.

Next step is to read all posts on overheating issues with the 308 and prioritize them for effective cooling. I would love to track my car one day but I'm a long way off until this car purrs.

Philip

 

I am not surprised with PPLtd's reputation on this board. My stuff is so minor but it makes you wonder. I really would have been happy to use them for some service items. They are so close and the prices they post for mx is reasonable. I will stop by there again to get another key made and I will check on the tech issue too. Maybe then I will leave there happier than the last two times.