THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

I believe so. I had not heard of this prior to Tool-Fan's post.

 

I wonder what other cool secrets some of the more "in-the-know" forum members can share with us?
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Lets not take the conspiracy notion too far. Where F40s are concerned, I know that during the production run they used 3 different suppliers for the composite materials (and you can actually see this if you have looked at enough F40s across the chassis number range) and, they drafted in interns from local Polytechnic schools etc to work on the assembly line & help complete production to meet demand. There are pics posted in the F40 thread that clearly show this.

I'm not certain about actually contracting outside companies to make F40s though.

 

I remember when I was a Kid looking at empty Coke bottles as the place where that Coke was originally bottled was in raised letters in the glass. For a kid far away locations seemed very cool. (Coke was 10c a bottle back then and you got back a penny for the bottle.)

Did the F40 vendors mark the panels in anyway? Very interesting.

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Very cool to me too, Jim. Thanks for sharing.

Industrial machinery often takes me to places and memories far, far away, when I see suppliers' stamps on various components. Especially if I have been to the factory or region, I think of the people and languages that have touched them, and the long and interesting backgrounds and journeys that have led to them now being in front of me.

A bit like the story of the bullet, from beginning to gruesome end, that was relayed in the beginning of the movie, Lord of War (with Nicholas Cage).

 

John Amette (the Classiche Director based here in Newport Beach) & I have gone over this a number of times - no markings, but there are 3 different types of composite materials used on USA F40s from 3 different suppliers the names of which he has noted, and if you look at the interior sills for example you will notice that some of the early 1990 cars had a shinier/tighter weave in the material, versus 1991 cars which usually have a duller/larger weave etc.

I'm not saying one is better than another, but, they are different.

The last dozen or so USA F40s had rather poor assembly, and even worse paint (1) so bad that FNA had the last handful repainted in the USA prior to delivery!

 

That reminded me of this story:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?1555638-Funny-Westmoreland-Story...&p=15525733&viewfull=1#post15525733

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New photo from Philipp Lücke here:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=345377622207626&set=a.240092326069490.61198.113273695418021

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2 months befor Paris motor show

 

The rear window is really P 4/5.

Strange.

 

Strange? I'd say they're on the right track.
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Man, I like the rear even with all the cladding on.

 

John is a great guy, he and I recently spent a long time discussing Bud's T5 and the rear suspension questions that both he and the F1 team had. There are some very interesting documents regarding F40 production from different subcontractors, but that is better suited for another thread. Anyways back on topic; the new car. It will be interesting to see what the initial premium becomes for the new car. When the Enzo hit US shores the premium reached over 1MM over MSRP and in certain cases remains that much. I don't think the new car will bring a similar premium, Ferrari truly are looking for all the money here. I believe the new Mclaren will not be a 'success' until long after its out of production if ever. Looking at the last super car interval (CGT, SLR, ENZO) there is only one car left that is still selling for a premium. I think history will repeat itself.

 

The new McLaren will be VERY fast and light. Interesting time for Hypercars. Generally I agree with you.

 

I wonder how many people who had the means to buy an F1 the first time around and didn't, are now thinking that they are not going to make the same mistake twice?

 

Jim, just curious, are you interested in getting any of these 3 new hypercars? big question mark for many is how a 3700lb 918 will feel on the road vs the much lighter F70 or McL. No doubt all will be very very fast.

 

Not sure it is fair to use the SLR as a barometer for the future McLaren hypercar. The SLR was of course heavily influenced in design and engineering by Mercedes Benz and wasn't quite the same type of car that the Enzo or even the Carrera GT was. McLaren are now free to build a supercar more closely in line with their own DNA and I believe the results will be right there with the best, thus commanding a premium price.

Another factor is production numbers - SLRs and CGTs were both built in numbers more than double that of the Enzo so its exclusivity has surely helped keep residuals very high. The expectation at this point is 300-500 of McLaren's new "F1" which will probably be in lock step with the number of Enzo successors Ferrari says they will produce.

I'll still give the nod to Ferrari as it appears their car will retain a V12 and so unless McLaren surprise us with something it will be down on prestige a bit in cylinder count.

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I agree with this line of thinking. It seems as if the idea is to maximize that "instant classic" value themselves, rather than leave it to the secondary market.

 

I have to see and drive them first but possibly I am.

 

Which of the 3 is pulling your interest the most at this point ?

 

Hopefully the McLaren.

 

So far we've only seen the 918. It will be great to see the others. I do think the 918 looks great. Hopefully it will be at Pebble.

 

I bet that will be very special and VERY fast.

I also hope the New Enzo will be wonderful as well.

(Even if they won't sell one to me)

 

You don't think you'll get one?
They are too jealous of your ring record to offer you one

 

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