THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

Fame would help, otherwise a long history with the marque. And rather rich.

 

It says in this thread. Either previous Ferrari super cars (288 GTO, F40, F50, Enzo), 9 new cars in two years, or an XX project car.

 

Automobile Magazine September 2012 Page 68 is reporting that the F70 "should" weigh less than 2800 pounds - including all the hybrid hardware.

If this is true, that is very impressive. (To me anyway)

 

Impressive indeed, but hard to believe. That´s less than the Enzo and much less than the also hybrid but smaller Porsche 918.

 

Rumors tell (even after the engine was shown in Beijing) that the car will weight between 1.150 kg to 1.250 kg. Near the weight of the FXX. That's less than 2.800 pounds.

 

impressive? zonda weigh 2711

 

Yes but zonda not have hybride système !

 

Here's a recent picture posted by F-Chatter fvdzwet in the Dutch section. He saw it last week or so.

Rear fenders look quite wide, the rest looks more tight.
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Yes, but the Zonda is made for being a supercar, not the worlds best car of all the times. IMO the Enzo, the McLaren F1 or the 288 GTO were best on its times than the Zonda.

 

That thing looks mean.

 

heritage = heft.

 

I'm not Dutch, so I can't find them on the Dutch forum. Are there more? Dirct link?

 

Back to their roots of a Spyder Corsa.

The trick with a KERS car isn't only low weight but F/R Mass distribution. That's why the 918 KERS works on the front wheels. Getting close to 50/50 with KERS is tough.

 

Onlt this one picture but here's a direct link:

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141614652&postcount=71740

 

The car is very very low and tight. I think the low weight is the game F70 plays.

The instability given by the excess of weight on the back can be use as an advantage with modern tech. I know that with 599 FXX Ferrari insisted on this.

Already looks stunning. Its so low that although being closer to the photographer than the Alfa Romeo Giulietta it looks like it have the height of the Alfa's bonnet.

More weight on the back means better traction. and for a rear drive, 800+ low weight car is essential. On the move, on corners, on high speed corners, stand still mass doesnt matter so much, because playing with aero Ferrari can give optimum downforce on front-rear axes.

 

Thanks!

 

Good to learn that the laws of physics have changed and that the Engineers developing my race cars are moving in the wrong direction as obviously is Porsche.

 

Zonda was never made to comply with global safety regulations (it was never legalized for sale in the US for example), it had no airbags and was designed over 13 years ago.

A better comparison would be the Huayra. It has a claimed "DRY" weight of 1350 KG (2976 lbs) so with all fluids it easily eclipses 3100 lbs. And it does not have a hybrid drivetrain.

2800 lbs for a modern, hybrid sports car that also meets global safety regulations is not an easy task.

 

The law must be stable but never stand still.

LOL

 

Totally. I like those wagon spoke wheels they have on it.

That is interesting.

 

According to their press relase, it has a 90kW electric motor for the rear wheels too.

 

This is not accurate. Aero grip only applies at certain thresholds of speed -- It is proportional to speed squared and is therefore not constant, an alarming prospect for non-professional drivers on the street and particularly as grip decreases exponentially under braking. Mechanical grip is *always* compromised by weight, mostly when it's in the wrong place. Proper balance is proper balance, no matter the work-around. It's why a simple Miata is so easy to drive fast and why a 911 is so difficult to master.

This! And as Formula 1 has shown, the trick is packaging. When KERS systems have failed, the primary disadvantage isn't less power or added weight, it's dead weight in the wrong place, compromising balance.

 

Exacto. Balance is the key.

 

I know I'm going to date myself here, but when I first looked at this picture, the first thing that came into my mind was it looked like the 40's/50's comedian, Joe E Brown. Not exactly the image of a Ferrari.

 

Whew, it made the list: http://www.insideline.com/features/coolest-new-cars-for-2014.html

The accompanying pics been posted before but if anyone missed 'em...
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