250 SWB Comp Re-Creation

[tongascrew]

Originally Posted by John Vardanian

Nice SWB, it looks as close to the original item as immitation crab meat is to crab.

john

Good point. And immition crab meet doesn't really taste like the real thing. Also note the lable must also read "imitation". Very important. Same should apply to "replica" Ferraris. just one man's opinion tongascrew

[Bullfighter]

Originally Posted by thecheddar

I'm getting fed up with this childish desire to put cars in little boxes with labels rather than discuss the merits of their machinery like adults.

Replicas/re-creations exist, period. Some (but certainly not this one) are more true to form than the "originals." With Ferrari 12-cylinder powerplants at heart (typically), I don't care what the shape du jour is. It's vintage Ferrari-related and it's worth discussing like a grown-up.

Or skipping entirely if you can't.

Buyers (few of them children) pay big money for authenticity because they value it above all else: i.e., those "little boxes" matter.

I don't quite know how a fake would be "truer to form" than an original, but I'm more interested in cars Ferrari built than in cars some guy built using Ferrari parts and copying someone else's design.

I appreciate that kit cars/replicas have a following, but those followers have different priorities. A drive in a fake 250 GT SWB is pretty meaningless, IMHO.

Glad to see the replicas 'outed' here for the record.

[GTE]

Originally Posted by Bullfighter

A drive in a fake 250 GT SWB is pretty meaningless

yes, and...

Glad to see the replicas 'outed' here for the record.

...yes!

[master631]

re-creation of what?was this car a GTO with the body of a GTE?no,the right name is camufflage.In Italy there is the fashion to call the scavengers as ecological operators,but they work always with trash,nothing vs the craftmans and vs the right of the owner to do all that he want about his properties,before using the word recreation should wait for the GTE become rarer more than the SWB and GTO so he can recreate the GTE, will not be long: D
wishes
Salvatore Murgo

[tongascrew]

Originally Posted by GTE

A GTE has a very distinctive shape. A 330 America looks like a GTE. A 250 GT SWB does not. The GTE and the SWB are very different cars which has much to do with their very different concepts. There is really no point in judging this particular car on it's looks. It is only in theory still a GTE. And that is quite sad in itself.



Fine with me.



Again, fine with me.



So how would you feel about someone who did own a genuine SWB, but had the body removed, chassis lengthened, install rearseats and place a replica GTE body on it?



Your doctor obviously isn't into classic Ferrari's at all.



I am sure there are people who are in it for the money and status, but why leave out the folks that are in it for the historical aspect? You know, those poor saps who read the books, search for the pictures, discuss particular models and try to paint a picture of how it was back then. Enjoy the car for what it is and for what it always was intended to be. You know, back when the car left the factory in the state in which the first costumer had intended. No matter how much the car is worth in the current market.



Also fine with me. I am one of those poor saps who are in it for the history. I can not really be bothered with cars that portray to be other, far more valuable cars. Like many of us, which you call elitists, I feel the same passion for a genuine 250 GTE as I do for a competition SWB or a GTO. How elitist is that? Come to think of it, if you would go as far as to destroy a genuine Ferrari just to pretend you have a far more valuable Ferrari, then who is the true elitist?

If to you the preference for originality comes across as nonsense, than so be it, but then you have absolutely no idea what the love for vintage Ferrari's is all about. You are indeed better served at Porsche-events.

What a great post!! It took a while but this captures what this sub forum is all about. All aspects of the discussion are captured here and the door is still wide open. I am sort of the "catchall" type who has interests in all sides as long as the quality is of a high grade. The replica/reproduction of the 250 SWB which is the subject of this post is a fine example of this. However an important issue is missing. The fact that this car fooled people at an prominent car show begs the need for clear doccumentation on the car that it is not an original 250 SWB. A nice tastful chrome script stating "reproduction" or "repl;ica" on the trunk lid and the front of the hood would do just fine. tongascrew

[Napolis]

Originally Posted by WCH

An expensive fake. I'd rather have a real GTE.

A lot of people agree with you. MANY of these fakes have been for sale for many years and IMO at the price they're offered at will continue to be.

Best

[VIZSLA]

Originally Posted by Napolis

A lot of people agree with you. MANY of these fakes have been for sale for many years and IMO at the price they're offered at will continue to be.

Best

The "fakes" suffer from the same resale fate as many customized machines do. It's hard to sell on one man's dream. Particularly at what it cost to realize.
It's bad enough to lose an original. Worse when the result becomes an orphan, left to rot.

[jjmcd]

Originally Posted by GTE

Also fine with me. I am one of those poor saps who are in it for the history.

With some exceptions, the people who are most into the historical aspects of these cars are hobbyists who tend not to actually own one of them, making the "enjoy the drive" aspect impossible.

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[jsa330]

Originally Posted by VIZSLA

The "fakes" suffer from the same resale fate as many customized machines do. It's hard to sell on one man's dream. Particularly at what it cost to realize.
It's bad enough to lose an original. Worse when the result becomes an orphan, left to rot.

I'd scoop one up at the right distress-sale price and a have blast...don't give a RA about concours or show, no one else knows it's a fake.

I only hope that my old s/n 4509 got a nice rebody over being parted out.

What I'd really like is to see it emerge Classiche-restored to original.

[JazzyO]

Originally Posted by jjmcd

With some exceptions, the people who are most into the historical aspects of these cars are hobbyists who tend not to actually own one of them, making the "enjoy the drive" aspect impossible.

Could not disagree more. The classic Ferrari owners that I know (and that I am myself) are well into the history, but also enjoy their drives more than anything else. Perhaps I surround myself with a certain type of owner, but almost without exception they DRIVE their cars, and are also heavily into the history of the mark, the model, and their actual car and its individual history. In my experience, it is actually the people that shrug their shoulders on replicas that tend to be non-owners.


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