Go Back   FerrariChat.com > Regional Areas - USA East > New York Tri-State - Sponsored by Bradan

Reply
 
Share/Bookmark LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 09-09-2005, 10:57 AM
Formula 3
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: New Jersey
Full Name: Adam G
Posts: 1,469
NJ DMV Classic Car Registration

I just registered the TR as a classic (Not a Historic). Need to have collector insurance, and not drive more than 3K miles a year. Keep the same plates, but you go to the inspection station where they verify the odometer works and they slap on a 2 year sticker. No other inspection. First year is $25 then $10 each year after.

Good way to go for those that have mods to their cars, or do not want to deal with inspections / price of inspection.

For more info call the NJ DMV and ask them to send you an application for Classic Car Registration.
Reply With Quote
Non-Sponsor Ads
  #2  
Old 09-09-2005, 11:11 AM
F1 Rookie
Non Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: northern New Jersey
Posts: 3,903
Do you mean Collector Car instead of Classic?

I did this back in May thanks to Matty Doorsup's suggestion. Most NJDMV clerks were clueless as to Collector Car registration process, but their supervisors understood immediately.

http://photobucket.com/albums/1003/g...current=39.jpg

Last edited by Greg G; 09-09-2005 at 11:13 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-09-2005, 11:18 AM
Formula 3
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Teaneck, NJ
Full Name: Leonardo Soccolich
Posts: 1,753
Just did this on my '74 BMW. I thought the car had to be at least 25 years old?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-09-2005, 11:24 AM
F1 Rookie
Non Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: northern New Jersey
Posts: 3,903
Quote:
Originally Posted by Len S
Just did this on my '74 BMW. I thought the car had to be at least 25 years old?

Thats the difference between Collector Car and Classic. No age requirement on Collectors
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-09-2005, 11:40 AM
ClydeM's Avatar
F1 Veteran
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wayne, NJ
Full Name: Clyde E. McMurdy
Posts: 7,725
My Garage
I drive more than 3K/year.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-09-2005, 12:53 PM
Formula 3
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Teaneck, NJ
Full Name: Leonardo Soccolich
Posts: 1,753
So Classic registration gets you the Historic QQ plates?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-09-2005, 01:11 PM
Formula 3
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: New Jersey
Full Name: Adam G
Posts: 1,469
Greg...you are correct....Collector...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-09-2005, 02:33 PM
F1 Rookie
Non Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: northern New Jersey
Posts: 3,903
Quote:
Originally Posted by Len S
So Classic registration gets you the Historic QQ plates?
All I know is that Collector does not have QQ's... I was able to keep my personalized tags.
Reply With Quote
Non-Sponsor Ads
  #9  
Old 09-09-2005, 03:31 PM
FasterIsBetter's Avatar
F1 Veteran
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NoNJ/Jupiter FL
Full Name: Steve W.
Posts: 5,841
Quote:
Originally Posted by Len S
So Classic registration gets you the Historic QQ plates?
There are two different forms of registration: Collector Car and Historic.

To register a car as "Historic", the car must be 25 years or older. You get "QQ" plates, which can be standard or personalized (My E-type roadster has QQ plates that say "MY69E"). Supposedly, by law, these cars can only be used for educational and display purposes or club outings. I've had Historic/QQ plates on old Jaguars for years and driven them all over, and never had a problem. You are supposed to have "collector car" insurance for them as well, but the state doesn't check as long as you have insurance. You pay one registration fee of $35, and renew it every 3 years at no cost. There is no inspection requirement at all for a historic registered vehicle, and you only need to display a rear license plate.

Collector Car registration is different. You register the car as a normal car, regardless of age, and separately apply for Collector Car designation. As noted by someone else, you are limited to driving the car 3000 miles per year, and you are supposed to have collector car insurance. You are subject to inspection for mileage only every two years, at which time the only thing they check is that your odometer is actually working and you have not exceeded the mileage limit. You get a special triangular inspection sticker that shows it is a Collector Car. I registered my '84 Mondial that way to avoid having to deal with the fact that it is a Euro spec car and may not pass emmissions tests. You can have regular plates or vanity plates (not QQ), and must have two plates, one front, one rear.

Hope that clarifies. Generally, you have to deal directly with Trenton to get Historic plates. I've gotten mine by going straight to the DMV (sorry... MVC) office in Trenton. They will issue them on the spot. Collector car designation you can do at any local MVC office, but the people who hand out the forms probably won't know what you are talking about (they will give you forms for Historic plates, which is NOT what you want). You'll probably end up talking to someone at the window to get the right form.

Last edited by FasterIsBetter; 09-09-2005 at 03:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-09-2005, 04:22 PM
Formula 3
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Teaneck, NJ
Full Name: Leonardo Soccolich
Posts: 1,753
I went to two locations before they could find one of the triangular stickers...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-09-2005, 05:06 PM
Formula 3
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: New Jersey
Full Name: Adam G
Posts: 1,469
I went to inspection place in Montclair...tiny place, but was very quick, and new what they were doing. I called DMV and they mailed me the form, sent it back and 2 weeks later got the special card that you give to the State inspection facility.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-09-2005, 08:09 PM
F1 Rookie
Non Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: northern New Jersey
Posts: 3,903
Amazing how it varies from center to center. Was able to complete mine in three steps.

1. Wayne DMV (Rte 23) picked up Collector Application.

2. Renewed registration in Oakland DMV, they handed me the special waiver card along with new registration.

3. Ridgewood Inspection Station... supervisor only one who recognized the waiver card, looked @ my OD, asked me to drive around the block to verify the OD was working, he then allowed me to install the triangle, and I was on my way!

Basically this allows me to skip the safety and emissions tests, and also puzzles my friends as to why my sticker is different
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-09-2005, 08:57 PM
Formula 3
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Teaneck, NJ
Full Name: Leonardo Soccolich
Posts: 1,753
I went to Lodi on one of the hottest days of this summer; the "inspector" reluctantly found a sticker, had me drive around in the parking lot so he could see 1/10 of a mile tick off, barely looked at my insurance card, and I was done.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-18-2005, 08:54 AM
Karting
Non Subscribed
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Northern Jersey
Full Name: Aaron
Posts: 225
Cool... I understand if you get collector car insurance, they also limit you to 3000 miles and the car must be garaged someplace that only you can open (i.e. locked, and it's not a shared location).

I wonder if I could keep myself to 3000 miles/year or less....
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-19-2005, 10:03 AM
Formula Junior
Not Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Middletown, NJ
Posts: 508
It's more than that. No driving to work, no driving to the store, etc. It's supposed to cover cars that are brought out once in a while to go to a show or a cruise-in, etc.

Obviously, you could drive it any way you like but you're driving without insurance if you do. The insurance company might look the other way for something minor but you might as well have no insurance if you're involved in a serious accident.

I have full, drive it anywhere, anytime insurance and registration for my Factory Five Cobra. I want no exclusions and it's not worth the risk to game the system IMHO.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-19-2005, 06:44 PM
ArtS's Avatar
F1 Rookie
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 4,846
I'm looking into collector car registration for my cars, though not too urgently, my '65 330 passed the full NJ inspection first time through!

From what I understand, collector car insurance is similar in price (less that half the cost of my current Ferrari policy) to antique/classic insurance except you can use it however you like as long as it accumulates less than 3k miles in a year. So far I've only contacted State Farm though and I'm not sure how accurate the info is.

Regards,

Art S.
Reply With Quote
Non-Sponsor Ads
  #17  
Old 09-19-2005, 09:38 PM
F1 Rookie
Non Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: northern New Jersey
Posts: 3,903
mfennell is correct, and while everyone's needs may be different, it suits me just fine.

Art, my collector car insurance is thru American Collectors based in Cherry Hill. Never needed to file a claim, but so far my dealings have been painless and professional. I can look up their # at your asking.

Last edited by Greg G; 09-19-2005 at 09:40 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-20-2005, 06:15 AM
ArtS's Avatar
F1 Rookie
Rossa Subscribed
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 4,846
Greg,

If you could get me the number, I'd really appreciate it! By the way, does anyone know if Hagerty or any of the other special interest insurance companys provide insurance in NJ?

Regards,

Art S.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-20-2005, 07:01 AM
F1 Rookie
Non Subscribed
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: northern New Jersey
Posts: 3,903
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtS
Greg,

If you could get me the number, I'd really appreciate it!
Regards,

Art S.
800 360-2277 or 856 779-7212

http://www.americancollectorsins.com
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-18-2006, 05:11 PM
peterp's Avatar
Formula 3
Silver Subscribed
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: NJ
Full Name: Peter P.
Posts: 1,858
registering 1966 330 GT from Vermont in NJ

I bought a 66 330 GT in Vermont. I have already purchased the car, but am having the engine rebuilt and A/C installed before I take delivery of it, so I won't actually have the car in NJ for at least a couple months. I would like to insure and register the car now, but I think that will be difficult since the car is in a different state. Also Vermont is a "no title" state, so will the lack of a title make it difficult to register in NJ. I will likely use collector car insurance.
Any advice on how to get insurance and registration done before the car is in the state?

Also, with regard to license Collector or Historic licence plates, do the Historic plates look different? I see several references to "QQ" plates -- does this mean they look like regular modern plates but have QQ in the number, or do they actually look like vintage plates? In Florida, you can find old 1966 plates and register a 1966 car with those -- I would like to do the same, but I don't know if this is what is meant by historic in NJ.

PS: I debated whether or not to start a new thread for this -- but there is so much useful and related information in this thread already that I thought it was better to add on to this one.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:58 AM.


FerrariChat.com has no association with Ferrari S.p.A.
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.