Chevrolet Camaro ZL1

[b-mak]

It redefines the Camaro and now does what it's supposed to do, except with 580 horsepower. Haters, don't knock it until you try it.

[GuyIncognito]

brakes/handling/steering?

[b-mak]

Originally Posted by GuyIncognito

brakes/handling/steering?

Something like that.

[GuyIncognito]

Originally Posted by b-mak

Something like that.

as in "they're good", or "it has them"?



FWIW, Muscle Cars aren't my thing, but I'm not a hater; I get the appeal. heck, I had a Mustang back in the day

[b-mak]

Originally Posted by GuyIncognito

as in "they're good", or "it has them"?

Ah, sorry. Thought you had watched my video.

Yes, they're really good. The ZL1 has replaced the Boss as my favourite muscle car. I want one that looks like this:

[GuyIncognito]

Originally Posted by b-mak

Ah, sorry. Thought you had watched my video.

Yes, they're really good. The ZL1 has replaced the Boss as my favourite muscle car. I want one that looks like this:

link to the vid?

still think the Stang is better looking but the ZL1 is a beast.

[b-mak]

Originally Posted by GuyIncognito

link to the vid?

still think the Stang is better looking but the ZL1 is a beast.

Everybody says the same thing, but I don't necessarily agree. ZL1 kills any Mustang around the track.

My footage is currently in with the pro editor, so until then this is what you get:

You Tube

You Tube

[GuyIncognito]

Originally Posted by b-mak

Everybody says the same thing, but I don't necessarily agree. ZL1 kills any Mustang around the track.

My footage is currently in with the pro editor, so until then this is what you get:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtFXYitu9_Q

tease!

[b-mak]

Originally Posted by GuyIncognito

tease!

The previous guy crashed a ZL1 trying the same thing from what I hear...

I figure if I can do that, the car must be good.

[Papa G]

Originally Posted by b-mak

ZL1 kills any Mustang around the track.

Interesting. How about the Boss w/ Laguna Seca Track package? or that 800hp Shelby version?

Ford somehow makes a rear solid axle work in the handling department but I'd still prefer the Camaro.

[b-mak]

Originally Posted by Papa G

Interesting. How about the Boss w/ Laguna Seca Track package? or that 800hp Shelby version?

Ford somehow makes a rear solid axle work in the handling department but I'd still prefer the Camaro.

I've tested the Boss Laguna Seca at Laguna Seca and it's a wonderful piece, but I don't see it keeping up with the ZL1. The ZL1's brakes are markedly better and the suspension is magnificent. The Recaros in the Boss are awesome for OEM seats.

The new Shelby is what, 650 horsepower? Doesn't matter though, Ford hasn't bothered to make it brake and turn.

[OhioMark]

b-mak:

You maybe correct about the ZL-1 around Laguna, but it weighs 400-500lbs.
more than the Boss and after many laps, I amagine the brakes would be screaming
"No Mas'" on the ZL-1 for that reason alone. Remember it also has 140+ more HP.
than the Boss so it should beat it!

Mark

[b-mak]

Originally Posted by OhioMark

b-mak:

You maybe correct about the ZL-1 around Laguna, but it weighs 400-500lbs.
more than the Boss and after many laps, I amagine the brakes would be screaming
"No Mas'" on the ZL-1 for that reason alone. Remember it also has 140+ more HP.
than the Boss so it should beat it!

Mark

The ZL1's brakes are far superior to the Boss' for that reason.

Having driven both on track, the brakes on the Boss would fade long before the ZL1's.

[4re Nut]

FWIW: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...a/viewall.html

...With professional racer Randy Pobst behind the wheel, the ZL1 laps the 2.2-mile Inde Motorsports Ranch circuit 2.45 seconds faster than the Boss. That's huge. Pobst credits the Mustang's ability to put its power down, but the data indicates the ZL1 carries more speed everywhere but the slowest corner...

With either one it is a great time to be a fan of American Muscle!

[b-mak]

I'm not surprised at all. We'll be going in a different direction for a comparison test.

[4re Nut]

Originally Posted by b-mak

...We'll be going in a different direction for a comparison test.

Brian,

I just realized you're a pro writer/driver; cool gig!

My apologizes for the MT post; I will ask for it to be deleted if you feel it is inappropriate.

Let me know.

TIA,

Steve

[Jaws]

Originally Posted by b-mak

I'm not surprised at all. We'll be going in a different direction for a comparison test.

ZL1 VS. GT500? 458 vs. ZL1? Curious to know but I suppose you can't tell.

[nthfinity]

Nice! Of course, the boys at GM have been running simulations for a while. The ZL1 like the ZR1 have a real knack for making even novice drivers look and perform amazingly!

[b-mak]

Originally Posted by 4re Nut

Brian,

I just realized you're a pro writer/driver; cool gig!

My apologizes for the MT post; I will ask for it to be deleted if you feel it is inappropriate.

Let me know.

TIA,

Steve

Hey, I'm just another Fchat member here who occasionally gets special access to cars. I don't own the thread, just happy to share my experiences.

MT is doing a great job with their stuff, particularly when they get pros in to do the heavy lifting. I didn't even realize they've done that comparison. It's perfectly logical and I like their qualitative and quantitative approach.

[b-mak]

Originally Posted by Jaws

ZL1 VS. GT500? 458 vs. ZL1? Curious to know but I suppose you can't tell.

LOL. Stay tuned.