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05-04-2011, 03:14 PM
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GM to invest 131 million in next Vette
http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/04/auto...n_bin&hpt=Sbin
I'm not sure 131 million is a lot or not. But, it seems we're 2 years away from whatever they're going to make.
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05-04-2011, 03:57 PM
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$131 million is not much development money.
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05-04-2011, 04:11 PM
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05-04-2011, 05:10 PM
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I would think $131mm would be the cost of new tooling alone.
please GM...the C6 is brilliant and did wonders for the company's image, particularly in Europe. don't half-ass the new car.
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05-04-2011, 06:42 PM
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05-05-2011, 10:36 AM
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Yes the article says the investment is going into the plant, not actually specifically the actual car. So who knows.
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05-06-2011, 08:26 AM
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Since the Z06 & ZR1 are already Giant Killers I'd spend the $ on vastly improving interior materials, spend a little on improving suspension. Both Z's can be had w ceramic brakes now so the brakes are fine. Power is still good too although I hear the 427 is to be replaced w a 5.0
 The new Z06 should have at least 550hp Also I'd spend $$ on a revised full CF body. C6 is already a great looking car so I'd just tweak it a little bit until GM can put some serious $$$ into the next Vette
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05-06-2011, 08:59 AM
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Well, I had hoped that they would give the Vette a new design, but for this money it appears doubtful.
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05-06-2011, 09:40 AM
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It all depends on how much they plan to actually build of the new car in the facility. If they bring in many finished sub-assemblies to be installed then the actual investment in new tooling for the car, across all suppliers, would be much more than $131M. But that wouldn't be on GM's nickel necessarily.
We also do not know how much of the existing tooling will be reworked at a (hopefully) considerable savings versus buying new. You could have a car that is almost completely different but still uses some of the same assembly processes to produce it.
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05-06-2011, 09:57 AM
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The $131 million is just for retooling and modifications to the Bowling Green Assembly plant. The money developing the C7 has already been spent/allocated. Remember, the C7 has been "in developement" since late 2006. The car is pretty much finished (with some final touches on the rear design holding things up.)
You can expect: Less weight slightly less torque better fuel economy better handling better seats smaller overall size more electronics inside back up camera more use of "lightweight" materials and some other stuff but I won't reveal at this time...
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05-06-2011, 07:40 PM
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05-06-2011, 07:55 PM
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05-06-2011, 09:24 PM
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The biggest problem with the current Corvette is that it has too high a percentage of front end weight to be a supercar. With the C5 Z06 the car was traction limited in first gear. It didn't have enough weight to put the power it had down and that limited acceleration. When they went to the C6Z they had more torque, but they increased the gear ratio to put exactly the same amount of torque to the rear tires in first gear. Now that they got to the point where the car can do more than 60 in first gear, they can't improve zero to sixity times unless some more weight comes out of the front of the car. And this is coming from somebody who time trial a Corvette and is intimately familiar with the C5/C6.
Unless the weight on the front wheels is reduced and the weight distribution improved they will be just nibbling around the edges and the changes won't be significant. The Corvette needs a real transaxle that moves the rear wheels forward and puts the transmission weight aft of the rear wheels to get a bit better than 50/50 weight distribution. If they do that (in addition to sprucing up the interior) they will have a world beater. I'm all for a car that is a bit smaller and more tidy as well as lighter and they could go back to a slightly smaller motor. That could be the world beater that the Corvette could really be. The current Corvette drivetrain is lifted up into the car from below at assembly. One of the problems with the current car is that the frame has to be wide enough to put the drivetrain in from below, that fixes the width of the car. To make the car a bit narrower, they need to redesign how it goes together. If they are changing the way the car goes together there is going to be a cost to retool the assembly facility. All conjecture of course, but it is food for thought.
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05-06-2011, 10:05 PM
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 FYI, Porsche 911 is the target for interior quality and feel...
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05-06-2011, 11:58 PM
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05-07-2011, 06:46 PM
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ZR1 is a budget supercar that can scare the beejeezus out of cars that cost 3x more
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05-07-2011, 10:40 PM
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