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Old 02-20-2012, 10:40 AM
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To be honest, you do not know what you're talking about. The aventador has destroyed every ferrari and most other competitors including the 599GTO on the track tests. You might want to look up the Quattroruote 'Club 4 secondi' if you want to see the truth.
IMO it doesn't matter. Like he said above, in my mind Lambo has always just been there. I hate a hypocrite and worse than a hypocrite I hate a thief. We all know the real story how Lambo got started.

They boast out of both sides of their mouths. We are better than Ferrari then they say they don't copy or want to be like Ferrari. Yet they've been trying to incorporate racing tech in their street cars. Go figure, a company that doesn't race or no jack sh*t about racing or care about racing putting racing tech in their cars. Yet they say, "we don't want to be like Ferrari".

Besides until they produce RWD cars, Lambo lap times and all that stuff are complete jokes just IMO. Nothing they do in AWD is a bench mark for what Ferrari does.

Some of their cars have been been stunning but Lamoborghini will always be an imitation of Ferrari. I really don't care what they do.

I don't think Ferrari selling 7,200 cars a year while Lambo sales flounder, really cares what Lamborghini does. They hardly control or dictate the super car market.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:47 AM
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I don't think Ferrari selling 7,200 cars a year while Lambo sales flounder, really cares what Lamborghini does. They hardly control or dictate the super car market.
when Lamborghini will start to build four seats family cars like FF and California then they will have also much bigger sales
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:23 AM
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IMO it doesn't matter. Like he said above, in my mind Lambo has always just been there. I hate a hypocrite and worse than a hypocrite I hate a thief. We all know the real story how Lambo got started.

They boast out of both sides of their mouths. We are better than Ferrari then they say they don't copy or want to be like Ferrari. Yet they've been trying to incorporate racing tech in their street cars. Go figure, a company that doesn't race or no jack sh*t about racing or care about racing putting racing tech in their cars. Yet they say, "we don't want to be like Ferrari".

Besides until they produce RWD cars, Lambo lap times and all that stuff are complete jokes just IMO. Nothing they do in AWD is a bench mark for what Ferrari does.

Some of their cars have been been stunning but Lamoborghini will always be an imitation of Ferrari. I really don't care what they do.

I don't think Ferrari selling 7,200 cars a year while Lambo sales flounder, really cares what Lamborghini does. They hardly control or dictate the super car market.
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:36 AM
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when Lamborghini will start to build four seats family cars like FF and California then they will have also much bigger sales
I doubt it. They will continue to make the gallardo & their exotic V12. Lamborghini can't make a successful practical front engine car or 2+2 because the people who buy their cars only want to be seen & that just isn't flashy enough.

The SUV concept will never go into production, it won't sell just like that 4 door sedan they briefly tried to push.
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:39 AM
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Truth is what it is.

The FF will easily sell just as many units than the Aventador.
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:39 AM
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Wow, this thread has taken a turn the last few posts....Maybe a mod will filter those into another thread...


Looking forward to hearing from those that saw the car today!
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:49 AM
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The front is very aggressive, the back is ..well particular. Exactly as in the photo posted earlier.

740 bhp and 1525 kgs dry weight. 340 km/h

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Old 02-20-2012, 12:01 PM
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The front is very aggressive, the back is ..well particular. Exactly as in the photo posted earlier.

740 bhp and 1525 kgs dry weight. 340 km/h

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So, what Moriaan1 called camo is the real deal?
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Old 02-20-2012, 12:28 PM
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The front is very aggressive, the back is ..well particular. Exactly as in the photo posted earlier.

740 bhp and 1525 kgs dry weight. 340 km/h

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so what will be curb weight? less that 1600?
it's 6,2 or 6,3 liter engine?
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Sounds very tempting. My guess is the weight with fluids will be around 3450lbs. Pretty darn impressive when you consider that big power = strong components = weight; and also all the goodies these cars have now days.

Thanks for the updates. I can't wait to see it.
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Old 02-20-2012, 12:53 PM
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so what will be curb weight? less that 1600?
it's 6,2 or 6,3 liter engine?
I would guess curb weight of 1625-1650kg?

what was it for 599? 1690kg?
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:02 PM
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I would guess curb weight of 1625-1650kg?

what was it for 599? 1690kg?
599 Curb weight 1,688


I that true that dry weight of GTO is only 1495 ?
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:23 PM
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740 bhp and 1525 kgs dry weight. 340 km/h

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Mind boggling!
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:28 PM
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The front is very aggressive, the back is ..well particular. Exactly as in the photo posted earlier.

740 bhp and 1525 kgs dry weight. 340 km/h

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which photo are you reffering to?
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:29 PM
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which photo are you reffering to?
I presume this one:
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:31 PM
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The front is very aggressive, the back is ..well particular. Exactly as in the photo posted earlier.

740 bhp and 1525 kgs dry weight. 340 km/h

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That's just crazy good - Make mine yellow :-)
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:00 PM
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:26 PM
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And this new model is known as "620 GT" ?
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:56 PM
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740hp is huge number.

575 had 515hp I think 599-620hp. 120hp more is what you call horse-power war climax

340km/h speed is not very much for this power, so probably its very stable and balanced aerodynamically on this speed range.

I expect a 3.0 seconds 0 to 60mph time.

with 740hp I'm imaging the level of the rest of the car's systems.....it will be mind blowing.

I think it will be a big step forward in supercar history.

With entry sport scars like 458, Mclaren mp4-12c, and latest Lamborghini Gallardo versions topping close to 600hp, supercars like 599 replacement should move the game very high to putt a distance between those two classes.
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Old 02-20-2012, 03:02 PM
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1.23 laptime fiorano, 8,5 sec 0-200 49 mm shorter 60mm lower 20 mm less width, the car looks very compact mix of 550, 275, 8c,its a real beauty much more aggressive than the 599,
I am in love
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