Engine Recall?

[Joe Mac]

Anyone hear anything legitimate about an upcoming engine recall issue? Possibly concerning a camshaft issue?

[TheMayor]

Originally Posted by Joe Mac

Anyone hear anything legitimate about an upcoming engine recall issue? Possibly concerning a camshaft issue?

I saw one of the failed engines yesterday. The crankshaft split in half. So, it's a serious issue.

Those who have the problem have been notified. Ferrari says it's about 100 cars around the world divided between California's and 458's. True? Who knows. I personally think it's more.


I do know the factory is sending brand new crate motors to replace those with problems. It's already started.

If you are curious about yours, all you have to do is contact your dealer. They will run the VIN. I did that with mine and it was not part of it.

[Joe Mac]

Originally Posted by TheMayor

I saw one of the failed engines yesterday. The crankshaft split in half. So, it's a serious issue.

Those who have the problem have been notified. Ferrari says it's about 100 cars around the world divided between California's and 458's. True? Who knows. I personally think it's more.


I do know the factory is sending brand new crate motors to replace those with problems. It's already started.

If you are curious about yours, all you have to do is contact your dealer. They will run the VIN. I did that with mine and it was not part of it.

it's amazing to me that Ferrari can determine that only such a small number was affected? Why would the camshaft have been the same on all of them??

[TheMayor]

Originally Posted by Joe Mac

it's amazing to me that Ferrari can determine that only such a small number was affected? Why would the camshaft have been the same on all of them??

It was a miscalibration and setting in the machining process. All they have to do is go back in the records to find the last time it was properly calibrated. I'm in manufactuiring. I can understand it perfectly.

Once they determined the failure, it was easy to back track the cause and how and when. This kind of failure is easy to determine what happened.

[of2worlds]

Originally Posted by Joe Mac

Anyone hear anything legitimate about an upcoming engine recall issue? Possibly concerning a camshaft issue?

Joe as you will recall the Corvette guys thought a replacement motor devalued the car.
For a modern car is it simply a bonus to forget about those miles an original motor accumulated and start again with a fresh motor in the car?

Ferrari could really turn the problem into a positive if they gave only the replacement motors a new mapping for an extra 20HP and also an extra year of warranty...
I can't imagine too many complaints then, if they did all that!
CH

[spyke]

How could it happen a top class supercar manufacturer like Ferrari to have this kind of failures? Every new model and every year, there are so many recalls. What happen to Ferrari now?

[Kaivball]

Originally Posted by TheMayor

It was a miscalibration and setting in the machining process. All they have to do is go back in the records to find the last time it was properly calibrated. I'm in manufactuiring. I can understand it perfectly.

Once they determined the failure, it was easy to back track the cause and how and when. This kind of failure is easy to determine what happened.

Good traceability, baby.

Know it all too well...

Kai

[Kaivball]

Originally Posted by spyke

How could it happen a top class supercar manufacturer like Ferrari to have this kind of failures? Every new model and every year, there are so many recalls. What happen to Ferrari now?

This is not unique to Ferrari and does happen.

Recalling 100 out of how. Any built between the Californian and 458, 10,000 total? 12,000?

That's 1% or less.

Not great but not awful.

Kai

[TheMayor]

Originally Posted by spyke

How could it happen a top class supercar manufacturer like Ferrari to have this kind of failures? Every new model and every year, there are so many recalls. What happen to Ferrari now?

How did Toyota recall 2 million cars last year?

Disappointing? Sure. But I can tell you from someone involved in manufacturing, no matter how much you try, stuff happens.

We had a product that was a huge success the first year but was improperly sewed. Someone switched the type of thread not knowing it would be an issue. Demand was high and the initial thread supplier ran out of stock. We had a lot of returns which costed us a lot of money. But, we corrected it and ten years later, this product still sells out every year.

This cost Ferrari a ton of money. What you do is learn from it and move on.

[SmokeyJoe]

Originally Posted by spyke

How could it happen a top class supercar manufacturer like Ferrari to have this kind of failures? Every new model and every year, there are so many recalls. What happen to Ferrari now?

These are new models so it is natural that you have a few "bumps" on the way to perfection. If you compare with a 911 for example, this is a 50 year old model which they are "updating" every year so obviously they should have less problems.

For me, calling every 911 "a new model" is the biggest scam in car history. No wonder Porsche is making so much money...

[spyke]

Ok then I understand.

[Rcktrod]

Originally Posted by TheMayor

I saw one of the failed engines yesterday. The crankshaft split in half. So, it's a serious issue.

Those who have the problem have been notified. Ferrari says it's about 100 cars around the world divided between California's and 458's. True? Who knows. I personally think it's more.


I do know the factory is sending brand new crate motors to replace those with problems. It's already started.

If you are curious about yours, all you have to do is contact your dealer. They will run the VIN. I did that with mine and it was not part of it.

+1. There's also a thread here, under crank shaft recall that listed the number to call Ferrari directly. I did and a nice man from FNA called me to tell me mine was not included in the recall. Those who are get a new engine and warranty starts over on the engine once it's installed.

[greyboxer]

Originally Posted by Joe Mac

Anyone hear anything legitimate

So are you saying the threads here when this was first announced a month ago have no authority or do you believe another is coming !

[clockem]

Just a FYI. Was at my dealer and they where replacing the engine on a 458 that was not on the recall list. It was a defective crankshaft. Let's all hope they didn't miss informing anyone else of a bad crankshaft.