1977 400 GT Auto Chassis 20301 on CL

[samsaprunoff]

Good day All,

Just documenting these cars, as they come up...

Two carbed Automatics in one week! Amazing!

Cheers,

Sam

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/2976578835.html

1977 Ferrari 400 GT Auto
Color: Red Exterior with Tan Interior
Mileage: 24943 KM
Location: Monterey, CA USA
VIN: ?
Chassis: 20301
Asking $33500 USD

This 1977 Ferrari 400 A is in Rosso Corsa with Tan interior.

This car was sold new to France, to Concessionnaire Alfa Romeo in 1977. It was imported to the USA in 1985 to Redondo Beach, California.

The Ferrari 400 was launched at the Paris Motor Show in 1976. The engine was a 4.8-liter V-12 with six Weber carburetors, developing 335hp.

This car has excellent mechanicals. The engine and transmission sound and feel as designed.

The paint is fresh and bright looking and consistent from top to bottom.

A local car here in Carmel, CA since 1989 with full documentation inlcluding import/export documents, all service and repair and new upholstery, all documented.

Recent service completed earlier this year. Recent service work includes front brake overhaul, rebuilt dampers at rear suspension, new hood struts, wheel bearings, spark plugs, oil and filter.

All mechanicals are in working order including the A/C, there are Michelin tires all around.

This car was sold from Mohr Imports to it's current owner two years ago, we are pleased to present it for sale.

California registration. Correct BAR sticker.

This car has an excellent servcie history, the file of records, as well as the jack roll and spare, and original owners manual will be presented to the new owner.

[intrepidcva11]

Guys,I'm new here; curious to know if one ever sees 412's on this thread?

[samsaprunoff]

Originally Posted by intrepidcva11

Guys,I'm new here; curious to know if one ever sees 412's on this thread?

Good day Seth,

Indeed, 412's do come up from time to time, although not too often... I guess because not as many were made as compared to the 400 series (?).

Cheers,

Sam

[samsaprunoff]

Good day All,

If anyone is interested 20301 is on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977-...item3376415e8c

***Please note this car is not currently California smogged. Please contact us if you are looking to registister the car in California.

Auction (Reserve): $7600 USD (no met reserve), 14 Bids, 5 days to go

Cheers,

Sam

[180 Out]

Also relisted on CL on Wednesday at $600 less than original ad. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/ctd/3019477894.html

[SCousineau]

Originally Posted by 180 Out

Also relisted on CL on Wednesday at $600 less than original ad. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/ctd/3019477894.html

That is a lot of money ($33,000) in this market for a car that may need some attention to pass CA emissions. But, it presents well in the photos.

[180 Out]

As the undercarriage photos show, the car lacks catalytic convertors. I have heard it said that the 400i can pass Smog Check without cats, but I am skeptical. A carbureted car would be even more of a challenge.

[samsaprunoff]

Originally Posted by samsaprunoff

Good day All,

If anyone is interested 20301 is on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977-...item3376415e8c



Auction (Reserve): $7600 USD (no met reserve), 14 Bids, 5 days to go

Cheers,

Sam

Good day Again All,

Back on Ebay with a Buy it Now of $30000.00 USD...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977-...item3376961fd1

The last Ebay Auction looked like it reached a bid of $15800 USD and then they cancelled the auction for some reason?

Cheers,

Sam

[brettski]

i would much rather have a well worn original interior that i could nourish than what looks like greasey, ill fitting vinyl on this car...
it may be leather, but it's still ill fitting and incorrect.

however, trying to recreate what the craftsman at the Factory acheived is really, really challenging, as the inserts, which were deleted here, are a huge challenge.

the best guy in the business up my way won't touch another 400 interior for a penny less than $15K, not including carpets, for which you need to add $2K...

and that's if you do the re and re yourself.

nevertheless, a 4 cam, carbed V-12 that looks decent is a ton of car for $30K, if it runs nice...my '78 400 A is still my clear favorite of all my Ferrari's at this point.

[samsaprunoff]

Originally Posted by brettski

i would much rather have a well worn original interior that i could nourish than what looks like greasey, ill fitting vinyl on this car...
it may be leather, but it's still ill fitting and incorrect.

however, trying to recreate what the craftsman at the Factory acheived is really, really challenging, as the inserts, which were deleted here, are a huge challenge.

the best guy in the business up my way won't touch another 400 interior for a penny less than $15K, not including carpets, for which you need to add $2K...

and that's if you do the re and re yourself.

nevertheless, a 4 cam, carbed V-12 that looks decent is a ton of car for $30K, if it runs nice...my '78 400 A is still my clear favorite of all my Ferrari's at this point.

Good day Brett,

Just an FYI, but you can probably buy replacement seat skins from the company (tappezzerialuppi.com) that Ferrari uses (or did use) for a number of their interiors. I say this, as enquired about new seat skins for my BB (1200 Euro for a pair) and it was not a problem and so I am pretty sure they could do the 365/400 series too. If you do a search in the BB section you will find a post I did about this.

In my case I ended up Leatherique'ing and redying my seats, as the leather was actually in excellent condition with only scuffs/scratches (no tears, etc) that the leatherique/redye process sorted out quite effectively.

Cheers,

Sam

[brettski]

thanks Sam...but, you know, i find that with 'one-size-fits-all' seat covers, you end up with seats that look like they have 'one-size-fits-all' seat covers.

there's a few big dollar restorations around here where 'covers' were used and it detracts from the finished product...period.

i'd rather just spend the extra and let a good upholsterer do what he does best...custom upholstery.

i'm happy you were able to work with your original leather...that's the best possible scenario.


brett

[180 Out]

Relisted on CL on Tuesday May 29. Still asking $32,900: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/ctd/3019477894.html

EBay auction ended on May 30, 25 bids, high bid of $19,850.00, reserve not met. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977-...item3376961fd1

[theobordeaux]

It's sister!!!!! my 400 auto is 20337!!!!

[samsaprunoff]

Good day All,

Just documenting it...with a new price...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...SS%3AUS%3A1123

The Buy It now is $27650.00 USD.

Cheers,

Sam

[180 Out]

This seller is regularly renewing its SF Bay Area Craigslist listing. The asking price is now $27,900. That's $5,600 below the original Craigslist price on April 29, and $250 more than the eBay Buy It Now price. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/3130791168.html

With four hours left on the eBay auction, and with 20 bids in the can, the current price is $15,100, with the reserve not met.

[Ashman]

Originally Posted by 180 Out

This seller is regularly renewing its SF Bay Area Craigslist listing. The asking price is now $27,900. That's $5,600 below the original Craigslist price on April 29, and $250 more than the eBay Buy It Now price. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/ctd/3130791168.html

With four hours left on the eBay auction, and with 20 bids in the can, the current price is $15,100, with the reserve not met.

Lots of pictures of the 400A on the Mohr Imports website (linked on the craigslist ad) and it looks pretty tidy overall. A slight blemish and possible misalignment on the right front bumper but overall the car looks pretty good in the pictures.

The underside looks like it was cleaned recently so it may be hard to assess what the leak situation is. The video of the engine start up sounds a little noisy to me, sort of "tappety" as if the valves might need adjustment.

Mohr also is selling a 1999 456 GTA for $49,750 that looks pretty good although fans of more modern Ferrarsi may grouse about the "high mileage" at 33K!

Anyone familiar with that dealer in Monterey, CA?

[180 Out]

Bidding ended at $21,600, Reserve Not Met. Would we expect the reserve and the Buy It Now price to be the same?

[dstacy]

Boy you're right about that interior Brett. Not only doesn't it fit but it also is stiched in the wrong places.

I still wonder how hard this car was hit in the front end. It was popped pretty good.

[Neil Bliss]

Originally Posted by dstacy

I still wonder how hard this car was hit in the front end. It was popped pretty good.

For my future buying edification, how are you determining that it was hit on the front end?

[dstacy]

Originally Posted by Neil Bliss

For my future buying edification, how are you determining that it was hit on the front end?

You mean other than the picture of where the front bumper and valance have been hit?