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Based on your and others comments this is what I will do, Make Brakes new inc Fluid & pads as recommended by F430GT New MPSS tyres I will also ask Trev & F430GT for some further assistance on Roll bar , springs and especialy setup and based on your comments the 360 should be OK Also had to laugh at one of the previous posts regarding women not belonging at the track My theory is let then have some basic involvement and a toy of their own so I can have whatever i want?? Cheers to all Kipper 
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Hi members
Just a short message to update the thread on my original posts Based on the advise of the contributors on this tread i made the following changes to the 360 spider. New MPS2 tyres Wheel alignment generally in accordance with Trev's reccomendation New pads and endless fluid in accordance with Trev's reccomendation Went over the rest of the suspension and all was OK Went back out onto the track and all i can say is (WOW) what a transformation, and what an easy and exciting car to track, was by no means the slowest street car on the circuit around some serious machinery, the only thing making it slower were my balls Sorry to all you Ferrari lovers for the pasting I gave the 360 in my original post. Thanks again to all the members that contributed to the post and a special thanks to Trev GT, Ferrari Dublin, F430 GT for your assistance Kipper
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03-01-2013, 08:28 PM
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Great thread.
Glad it worked out in the end!
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Funny that in the end it wasn't about the horsepower, it was about the stopping power. Reminder to me to get my brake fluid flushed at the next oil service.
(Maybe the title of this thread really should have been "360 pedal slop, and no stop")
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Great thread. I have not taken my Modena to the track yet, so will take all advice on here as not to spoil my first experience.
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The NT05 are great tires, I had them on my 360. However, they lasted 4k miles of street use. Expect changing the tires more often than oil change.
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before i was killed or killed someone else. The MPS2 that i replaced them with are outstanding on both on the road and sensible track use Kipper
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This thread has me wondering how many street accidents occur when drivers set up their cars poorly, take the car for a spirited drive and then...
Ferraris that are not driven much overall are perhaps more susceptible to the kinds of driving issues that can arise if not well-maintained with at least annual brake fluid changes and a periodic alignment check. Because of putting low miles on the car, abnormal tire wear from poor alignment doesn't become evident like it would on a daily driver, and even if the alignment doesn't result in uneven wear, the settings may give the car the snap oversteer tendency at the limit it's known for when the rear isn't set with sufficient toe. Then there are the tires. Even good tires when new can be scary slippery because of the mold release compound that remains on them after manufacturing. On most cars this isn't a problem that doesn't solve itself within a few hundred miles of driving. But a Ferrari that's only driven maybe 30-50 miles every few weekends could take a month or more to get that few hundred miles. In the meantime, if because of the passage of time, the owner thinks the tires are sufficiently worn-in, and they take the car for some hard driving, well, you can see what might happen. Choose poorly handling tires, mix in old brake fluid and bad alignment settings, and the problem is worse, and maybe downright dangerous. I can understand owners wanting to save on maintenance expense by stretching belt changes to 4 or 5 years and rolling the dice a bit. Owning and maintaining these cars are expensive. I'm not suggesting that the OP did any of this to save costs, but to me, cutting corners on brake fluid and alignment, and/or poor tires just isn't worth any "savings," as we have seen from the above discussion. I'm very glad he came to this board, got his car set up right and is enjoying it the way it was meant to be.
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I used the PS2 before the MPSS I use now. The later model MPSS tyres made a really significant difference to wet grip with no trade-off in dry grip or overall wear rates. Suggest you try them out next time you're changing. In the meantime, keep an eye on your tyre temperatures (inside/outside) and also wear rates (in overall mix of street/track driving). Let those tell-tales inform your decision as regards tyre pressure and whether or not you can take on more camber. Incidentally, I recently changed the rear anti-roll bar from OEM to the CS/Scud item. which is 20% or 25% stiffer. This has improved rear balance and controllability also with no down-side for clearance or comfort on the street. A very cheap and easy upgrade but it did take 6 months of waiting for the item to pop up on eBay  Best!
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I would add stainless steel braided brake lines to replace the old rubber lines. They won't expand like the rubber ones and will feel more solid.
I am not a big fan of the OEM pads. They don't seem to last long in track use. I currently use Ferodo pads. +10000 for fluid flush!!!! I really like Michelin Pilot Sport tires for damp, wet, dry street and fun track time (not timed racing). Good luck and a happier track time when you go again!!! Last edited by mr_bock; 03-05-2013 at 05:41 PM.
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The 360 Spider we have is a nice example. you can track your car and still look after it but i must say that the temptation to push the limits is very real with the feed back that the 360 gives me. I understand there is so much more that can be done just the seats alone a very ordinary for spirited driving on the road let alone track use but it is what it is. I can imagine now how a well set up challenge car could be? lots and lots of fun? I take note of the mods you mention as they are simple and will not detract from the aesthetics. What tyre pressures do you recommend on the road? Keep well Thanks Kipper
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Michelin recommended 28 rear and 26 front to me for the MPSS (the same as recommended for the PS2). Increasingly though I find myself running a higher pressure (say +4 psi) and riding in "normal" suspension mode for road driving. I find this gives the car a better balance between ride comfort and sharpness of turn.
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) Stickier tyres would load my brakes and suspension to a greater degree and once you start chasing the dragon's tail it can all get a bit obsessive and expensive and before you know it you've a stripped-out track car which can no longer be used on the road!
