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Old 07-24-2012, 04:27 AM
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No offense guys, but can we get this back on track regarding the Enzo replacement, most of this thread belongs in the racing section. Again, no offense to anybody.
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Interesting as it is, I agree.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:16 AM
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Has anyone here heard something about the Enzo replacement? The last spy photos were seen 6 weeks ago.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:58 AM
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So what is the ruling of owning a new Enzo, never mind the money, i heard you have to own many Ferraris to be on the list
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:19 PM
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How about Bugatti. They still haven't sold their 300 and that Puppy's been for sale since what 2005?

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I can't remember where I read it (my online search only takes me to Wikipedia) but I thought Bugatti already sold more than 300 Veyrons? If I remember correctly, sales were doing pretty good and they increased total production to 300 coupes (including SS) and 150 Grand Sports (including Vitesse).

Anyone else remember reading/hearing about this?

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Motor Trend September 2012 Page 18

450 Veyrons planned for total production - 360 have been sold.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:21 PM
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So what is the ruling of owning a new Enzo, never mind the money, i heard you have to own many Ferraris to be on the list
Fame would help, otherwise a long history with the marque. And rather rich.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:24 PM
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So what is the ruling of owning a new Enzo, never mind the money, i heard you have to own many Ferraris to be on the list
It says in this thread. Either previous Ferrari super cars (288 GTO, F40, F50, Enzo), 9 new cars in two years, or an XX project car.
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Automobile Magazine September 2012 Page 68 is reporting that the F70 "should" weigh less than 2800 pounds - including all the hybrid hardware.

If this is true, that is very impressive. (To me anyway)
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Automobile Magazine September 2012 Page 68 is reporting that the F70 "should" weigh less than 2800 pounds - including all the hybrid hardware.

If this is true, that is very impressive. (To me anyway)
Impressive indeed, but hard to believe. That´s less than the Enzo and much less than the also hybrid but smaller Porsche 918.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:11 PM
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Impressive indeed, but hard to believe. That´s less than the Enzo and much less than the also hybrid but smaller Porsche 918.
Rumors tell (even after the engine was shown in Beijing) that the car will weight between 1.150 kg to 1.250 kg. Near the weight of the FXX. That's less than 2.800 pounds.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:16 PM
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Automobile Magazine September 2012 Page 68 is reporting that the F70 "should" weigh less than 2800 pounds - including all the hybrid hardware.

If this is true, that is very impressive. (To me anyway)
impressive? zonda weigh 2711
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Yes but zonda not have hybride système !
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Has anyone here heard something about the Enzo replacement? The last spy photos were seen 6 weeks ago.
Here's a recent picture posted by F-Chatter fvdzwet in the Dutch section. He saw it last week or so.

Rear fenders look quite wide, the rest looks more tight.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:36 PM
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impressive? zonda weigh 2711
Yes, but the Zonda is made for being a supercar, not the worlds best car of all the times. IMO the Enzo, the McLaren F1 or the 288 GTO were best on its times than the Zonda.
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Here's a recent pictures posted by F-Chatter fvdzwet in the Dutch section. He saw it last week or so.

Rear fenders look quite wide, the rest looks more tight.
That thing looks mean.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:40 PM
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impressive? zonda weigh 2711
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:41 PM
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Here's a recent pictures posted by F-Chatter fvdzwet in the Dutch section. He saw it last week or so.
I'm not Dutch, so I can't find them on the Dutch forum. Are there more? Dirct link?
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Here's a recent pictures posted by F-Chatter fvdzwet in the Dutch section. He saw it last week or so.

Rear fenders look quite wide, the rest looks more tight.
Back to their roots of a Spyder Corsa.

The trick with a KERS car isn't only low weight but F/R Mass distribution. That's why the 918 KERS works on the front wheels. Getting close to 50/50 with KERS is tough.
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I'm not Dutch, so I can't find them on the Dutch forum. Are there more? Dirct link?
Onlt this one picture but here's a direct link:

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpos...ostcount=71740
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:12 PM
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The car is very very low and tight. I think the low weight is the game F70 plays.

The instability given by the excess of weight on the back can be use as an advantage with modern tech. I know that with 599 FXX Ferrari insisted on this.

Already looks stunning. Its so low that although being closer to the photographer than the Alfa Romeo Giulietta it looks like it have the height of the Alfa's bonnet.

More weight on the back means better traction. and for a rear drive, 800+ low weight car is essential. On the move, on corners, on high speed corners, stand still mass doesnt matter so much, because playing with aero Ferrari can give optimum downforce on front-rear axes.
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