THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

[arakisfilip]

Originally Posted by Napolis

While money is money rules are rules and the law of physics are the laws of physics if the ACO gives privateers more energy/fuel than the factory teams even the factory teams can't contraveine the laws of physics.

Your comment that they are probably already testing their 2014 LMP 1 cars which will have to be TOTALLY different than their 2013 LMP1 cars is silly.

If we get enough sponsorship we will see if we can do better than the Delta Wing.

Once again the odds of us getting enough sponsorship money in these interesting times remain long.

If you look in the past few years the gap between manufacturer and privateer was always way bigger then a few extra horses could solve..The Aero, and chassis has been, and will be vastly superior for the simple fact that you cant break the laws of economics. In other words if you are competing against the might of audi/porsche/toyota that have limitless Wind Tunel use at their fingertips, coupled with super computers crunching CFG data, and humungous human resaurces...there just is no comparison...

And if you really think about it there is no way the ACO would allow privateers to have a chance at winning overall, if for nothing else, because the manuf bring the big bucks to the game, as well as the fans...It has been obvius for quite some time that the ACO will always favor manufacturers...

I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, like i mentioned I'd love to see you there, and I'm sure you'd have a great time with it. I'm just saying you shouldn't have that high expectations, as it might limit your fun, when the politics start playing a role. I'm preaty sure even if you build the fastest car out there, ACO would find a way to bring you down, behind the manufs....

For an example on how the ACO does buisnees the GTE is the best example...when spyker ran it's cars (being a small manufacturer) they recived little or no help from the ACO, and their cars had to be fully ACO homologation complient...While when the BMW came along, they just built a prototype (the m3 gtr) totaly outside the rules, and they were alowed to race. And when it became apperent that the cars was still a piece of crap, they were given unheardof performance addvantiges to make it not only competitive, but dominent.

[titanium430isback]

Originally Posted by Napolis

I heard the same except you have to add the mandatory car cover for 200K usd.

well of course

[titanium430isback]

Originally Posted by TOOL-FAN

Around that. Do you have a letter yet? Have you seen the qualifications list?

no and no, did not even know one existed yet

[Napolis]

Originally Posted by arakisfilip

If you look in the past few years the gap between manufacturer and privateer was always way bigger then a few extra horses could solve..The Aero, and chassis has been, and will be vastly superior for the simple fact that you cant break the laws of economics. In other words if you are competing against the might of audi/porsche/toyota that have limitless Wind Tunel use at their fingertips, coupled with super computers crunching CFG data, and humungous human resaurces...there just is no comparison...

And if you really think about it there is no way the ACO would allow privateers to have a chance at winning overall, if for nothing else, because the manuf bring the big bucks to the game, as well as the fans...It has been obvius for quite some time that the ACO will always favor manufacturers...

I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, like i mentioned I'd love to see you there, and I'm sure you'd have a great time with it. I'm just saying you shouldn't have that high expectations, as it might limit your fun, when the politics start playing a role. I'm preaty sure even if you build the fastest car out there, ACO would find a way to bring you down, behind the manufs....

For an example on how the ACO does buisnees the GTE is the best example...when spyker ran it's cars (being a small manufacturer) they recived little or no help from the ACO, and their cars had to be fully ACO homologation complient...While when the BMW came along, they just built a prototype (the m3 gtr) totaly outside the rules, and they were alowed to race. And when it became apperent that the cars was still a piece of crap, they were given unheardof performance addvantiges to make it not only competitive, but dominent.

Bench racing bores me. We beat several factory entries at The Ring and if we come back next year we'll be as fast as any car in the race. If we build an LMP1 and the ACO rules stay as they are we'd have a reasonable chance. If we're not given a reasonable chance we won't go. No problem either way.

[Senna1994]

Originally Posted by TOOL-FAN

Around that. Do you have a letter yet? Have you seen the qualifications list?

Michael, what does the qualifications list look like?

[ARTNNYC]

Originally Posted by Napolis

Bench racing bores me. We beat several factory entries at The Ring and if we come back next year we'll be as fast as any car in the race. If we build an LMP1 and the ACO rules stay as they are we'd have a reasonable chance. If we're not given a reasonable chance we won't go. No problem either way.

Jim is spot on here. Until you have thrown down the gauntlet yourself and gone pro racing you will never know what is involved

[arakisfilip]

Originally Posted by ARTNNYC

Jim is spot on here. Until you have thrown down the gauntlet yourself and gone pro racing you will never know what is involved

That's true...But that pretty much means none except Napolis can argue a point with Napolis. I am only a fan of the sport, maybe IMO above average informed about the sport. I am, however, free to state my opinion... I was not talking about bench racing, but simply looked at the current state of affairs in ACO, the politics involved, and the achievement of Audi, Porsche, Toyota, and their assets and made an assessment.

Races are raced to be won, and the only winner is the first one to catch the checker... everything else are just consolation prizes.. One one cares who came in 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,etc....

[Napolis]

Originally Posted by arakisfilip

That's true...But that pretty much means none except Napolis can argue a point with Napolis. I am only a fan of the sport, maybe IMO above average informed about the sport. I am, however, free to state my opinion... I was not talking about bench racing, but simply looked at the current state of affairs in ACO, the politics involved, and the achievement of Audi, Porsche, Toyota, and their assets and made an assessment.

Races are raced to be won, and the only winner is the first one to catch the checker... everything else are just consolation prizes.. One one cares who came in 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,etc....

More silly posting. You may not care about who comes in 2,3,4, etc. but MANY do and stating that No One cares about who came in 2,3,4, etc. is laughable.

There are many professional racers on FCHAT including ones who have won Le Mans more than once and others who are F1 Champions.

We get that you're an AF Corsa Fan Boy and Love Bench racing.

We only finished 12 OA at The 24 of Nurburgring but as we did it in an FIA Class 7 Hybrid we are in the running for an FIA World Champinoship. May not mean much to you but I think it's pretty cool and if we do well in our next race we'll win that. Could be worse.

[arakisfilip]

Originally Posted by Napolis

More silly posting. You may not care about who comes in 2,3,4, etc. but MANY do and stating that No One cares about who came in 2,3,4, etc. is laughable.

There are many professional racers on FCHAT including ones who have won Le Mans more than once and others who are F1 Champions.

We get that you're an AF Corsa Fan Boy and Love Bench racing.

We only finished 12 OA at The 24 of Nurburgring but as we did it in an FIA Class 7 Hybrid we are in the running for an FIA World Champinoship. May not mean much to you but I think it's pretty cool and if we do well in our next race we'll win that. Could be worse.

not a Af corsa fan boy, but a Ferrari/Michelotto/GTE Fan

[ARTNNYC]

Originally Posted by Napolis

More silly posting. You may not care about who comes in 2,3,4, etc. but MANY do and stating that No One cares about who came in 2,3,4, etc. is laughable.

There are many professional racers on FCHAT including ones who have won Le Mans more than once and others who are F1 Champions.

We get that you're an AF Corsa Fan Boy and Love Bench racing.

We only finished 12 OA at The 24 of Nurburgring but as we did it in an FIA Class 7 Hybrid we are in the running for an FIA World Champinoship. May not mean much to you but I think it's pretty cool and if we do well in our next race we'll win that. Could be worse.

Just FINISHING a 24 hour race is a MAJOR achievement in itself...

Anyway back to thread topic...I hope the F70 is as nice as I think its going to be...lotsa competition out there now for the Hypercar buyer

[subirg]

Originally Posted by Senna1994

Michael, what does the qualifications list look like?

Well, if the price is going to be well north of $1M USD (excluding embroidered $200k+ car cover), I'm not sure they'll need one!

[TOOLFAN]

Originally Posted by Senna1994

Michael, what does the qualifications list look like?

Its basically the list of things Ferrari wants to see from you before they will sell you a car at MSRP. There of course always exception to these lists, take for example the fact Jay Kay was able to get an Enzo at MSRP without having the proper prerequisites, Nick Mason did not have the 'qualifications' either. To get an Enzo was much simpler and cheaper, basically they required that you have one of the other super Ferraris (288GTO, F40, F50). With this car you must still own one of the super Ferraris from new and not have gotten the car second hand. There are other parameters that you can meet of course. The most amazing one that I find is if you haven't had a super Ferrari since birth you can supplement this by having purchased 9 Ferraris in 24 months. However, there are more direct and creative ways of getting a car at MSRP.

[Napolis]

Originally Posted by TOOL-FAN

Its basically the list of things Ferrari wants to see from you before they will sell you a car at MSRP. There of course always exception to these lists, take for example the fact Jay Kay was able to get an Enzo at MSRP without having the proper prerequisites, Nick Mason did not have the 'qualifications' either. To get an Enzo was much simpler and cheaper, basically they required that you have one of the other super Ferraris (288GTO, F40, F50). With this car you must still own one of the super Ferraris from new and not have gotten the car second hand. There are other parameters that you can meet of course. The most amazing one that I find is if you haven't had a super Ferrari since birth you can supplement this by having purchased 9 Ferraris in 24 months. However, there are more direct and creative ways of getting a car at MSRP.

Also if your penis is over 4 inches you can't get one.

[DeSoto]

Originally Posted by Napolis

Also if your penis is over 4 inches you can't get one.

Why would you want one with a penis over 4 inches?

[Napolis]

Originally Posted by DeSoto

Why would you want one with a penis over 4 inches?

True True.

[crinoid]

I swear every time I leave and come back to this thread it gets funnier and funnier.

[180 Out]

Originally Posted by Napolis

Also if your penis is over 4 inches you can't get one.

That's a qualification anyone with a sharp knife can meet.

[Senna1994]

Originally Posted by TOOL-FAN

Its basically the list of things Ferrari wants to see from you before they will sell you a car at MSRP. There of course always exception to these lists, take for example the fact Jay Kay was able to get an Enzo at MSRP without having the proper prerequisites, Nick Mason did not have the 'qualifications' either. To get an Enzo was much simpler and cheaper, basically they required that you have one of the other super Ferraris (288GTO, F40, F50). With this car you must still own one of the super Ferraris from new and not have gotten the car second hand. There are other parameters that you can meet of course. The most amazing one that I find is if you haven't had a super Ferrari since birth you can supplement this by having purchased 9 Ferraris in 24 months. However, there are more direct and creative ways of getting a car at MSRP.

Thank you Michael as always for the information. I know Porsche is having a tough time right now moving 918 of the 918 Spyder and that is from a buddy of mine at Porsche.

[Napolis]

Originally Posted by Senna1994

Thank you Michael as always for the information. I know Porsche is having a tough time right now moving 918 of the 918 Spyder and that is from a buddy of mine at Porsche.

OMG the number of people who want to spend 1MM on Hypercars in these interesting times
isn't growing to the sky?

No ****.

200 so far. They were planning on 918. How about Bugatti. They still haven't sold their 300 and that Puppy's been for sale since what 2005?

Once Bob's hard rain starts to fall it's going to get interesting.

You heard it here first. Ferrari should think about changing their tune a little.
Super Enzo's at 1.7MM USD?

Feeling lucky???

[Zack]

Originally Posted by DeSoto

Why would you want one with a penis over 4 inches?

You wrote this in response to...TOOL-FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!